Define

[chill]

controversial,
 inflammatory,
 irrelevant,


When posting in a thread?  Who decides what is controversial compared to having a debate about certain issues?  Who decides the difference between being controversial and having a debate?

Inflammatory, Who decides what is inflammatory and what isn't?

And irrelevant is another one of those words.  What one may deem as irrelevant, another might find it relevant.

Very shaky ground..........jmho

[Wolfy]

I believe the ultimate authority here has been given to M_t

[Sluggo]

Did I miss something again ?.....

[Sluggo]

Troll (Internet) (sl.) A troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant, or off-topic messages in an online community, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response, or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Never mind, I figured it out....

I don't know that I agree with the defination, because most, if not all of us have posted something that fits that defination.  I think the line for me is crossed when a message is crafted for the sole intent to decieve, harm, ridicule or demean someone for pleasure....well, pretty much for any reason, I guess.  But, who the F am I.......

[Bofemus]

The specific context that spurred the initial post is probably what's raising the for most people...

As least, it is for me.

[chill]

Troll (Internet) (sl.) A troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant, or off-topic messages in an online community, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response, or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Never mind, I figured it out....

I don't know that I agree with the defination, because most, if not all of us have posted something that fits that defination.  I think the line for me is crossed when a message is crafted for the sole intent to decieve, harm, ridicule or demean someone for pleasure....well, pretty much for any reason, I guess.  But, who the F am I.......

You are a smart cookie.   I didn't notice that definition until one called Hoss a troll.  I was kind of surprised at that, and then read the bottom saying for the first time. Maybe it has been there all along?  But I noticed it tonight which led me to ask in this thread.

So sluggo you win, because you figured out where I got what I posted, and took it for face value, which is why I asked in the first place.
And you are right your reasoning and definition is much better.

And wolfy God bless your heart.  It had nothing to do with MT or her powers.

[Bofemus]

I guess I missed something that got poofed... either that, or missing a mis-use of "troll".

If we want to talk about something, lets go ahead and TALK about it.  What are we talking about, *specifically*?

[chill]

we are talking about defining the definition sluggo posted.

[Bofemus]

we are talking about defining the definition sluggo posted.

Yes, but *why* are we talking about that?  Discussions without context tend to be a bit confusing.

[chill]

Troll (Internet) (sl.) A troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant, or off-topic messages in an online community, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response, or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.

Never mind, I figured it out....

I don't know that I agree with the defination, because most, if not all of us have posted something that fits that defination.  I think the line for me is crossed when a message is crafted for the sole intent to decieve, harm, ridicule or demean someone for pleasure....well, pretty much for any reason, I guess.  But, who the F am I.......

I can't spell it out more then this.
I picked words out of the definition, I wanted to see how othesr define those words.  So far sluggo is the only one who defined.

Sorry there isn't any "motive" if that is what you are confused about.  It's pretty basic.  And sorry for your confusion.

[H0$$]

What can I say, I pull no punches and I'm tiring of dipshits in my old age.

[m_t]

Personally? I define it by starting threads like this one. Seems everyone (myself included) missed the post referenced. Until it was brought front & center. IMO, to start stirring. <shrug>

[H0$$]

So basically, it's stirring if "you", the other person, doesn't like it. Take coord for instance...he will sit here and argue politics day after day but when that political conversation is not one that he likes then I'm a troll and stirring shit. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. That's OK though. I don't mind him calling me a troll as long as he doesn't mind me calling him a midget. The fucking arrogance of a few around here is simply mind boggling. 

[m_t]

So basically, it's stirring if "you", the other person, doesn't like it. Take coord for instance...he will sit here and argue politics day after day but when that political conversation is not one that he likes then I'm a troll and stirring shit. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. That's OK though. I don't mind him calling me a troll as long as he doesn't mind me calling him a midget. The fucking arrogance of a few around here is simply mind boggling. 

No, I think you misunderstand what I'm saying. No one, apparently, really paid much attention to what was posted. I know I tend to scroll right on past the BS y'all spew at one another 'cause it's boring and the same old shit each time. I suspect others do, too. The only reason anyone's discussing it now is because chill took it upon herself to bring it front and center. And yes, IMO, that's stirring. Frankly, I don't much care what y'all call each other - you give as good as you get on several fronts. As do the others involved. So I don't see why it should be a big deal to anyone else.

[Coordman]

Wow.  This grew a little. 

Ok, here's the deal.  H0$$, don't put my SN in the title of your political threads.  If you have something you want to say directly to me, PM me.  I've pretty much had enough of it, as have many, and I DO reserve the right to ignore you if I so choose.

Take coord for instance...he will sit here and argue politics day after day but when that political conversation is not one that he likes then I'm a troll and stirring shit.

Yup.  It's true, I spend lots of time here trying to refute the spread of what I would refer to as misinformation and nonsense.  Please do me a favor:  Find the most recent political thread I started.  I'll wait... Can't find it?  Weird.

That's OK though. I don't mind him calling me a troll as long as he doesn't mind me calling him a midget.

Nope, I don't mind that at all.  If that's the most original thing you can come up with, you're just embarassing yourself, cuz I've heard them all.    Midget is a term kids used when they couldn't come up with anything better than that.  I was always kinda partial to "Joe Pesci", but I digress.

Folks, the important part of that quote wasn't the beginning, it was the end; the part about "provoking other users into an emotional response, or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion".  Sig lines here don't allow for many characters, so I had to shorten it.  Here is the Definition as seen on Wikipedia:

"In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts controversial, inflammatory, irrelevant, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion."

Link:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)

See, it's really not about what is said, it's about the intent behind it.   Personally, I would add the word "consistently" to the beginning of it, but that's just me.

H0$$, it is my right and the right of anyone else on this board to ignore you.  And if you decide to throw a tantrum about it (like you did last night) it's my (our) right to ignore that too.  See, I saw this thread previously:  http://divorceinfo.com/heo/index.php/topic,18316.0.html and chose to ignore it.  Doesn't mean I don't have an opinion (feel free to ask m_t if you like).  It just means that I'm either too busy to respond, or (as it was in this case) I just didn't feel like getting into another pointless argument.  I'm not going to change your mind and you're not going to change mine.  What is the point? 

But no one took your bait, so you had to one up THAT thread, and call someone out by name:  http://divorceinfo.com/heo/index.php/topic,18326.0.html  And you know what?  That pissed me off.  Because, as I mentioned previously, it is very much my right to ignore you.  And it's not like this is the first time we've discussed keeping my SN out of your thread titles.  That coupled with the idiocy that currently populates YOUR signature (Really, can anyone read that and not see the tantrum of an attention starved child throwing a fit on the floor of  a grocery store?  "Mommy, he's getting MORE than me!") and I got fed up.

Sorry, folks.